The new gun free Australia]

[Gordon Coleman]

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brian Milner" <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
To: <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
Subject: FW: The new gun free Australia]
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:31:16 -0500

-------Original Message-------

<mailto:LathangT@telus.net>

Subject: Fw: The new gun free Australia]



It will be interesting to hear how our Liberal PM justifies his
determination to have all guns seized and destroyed in Canada. Does he also
believe that illegal guns will stop crossing the US border into Canada?









Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts...



From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia

Hi friends, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down
Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced
by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our
own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million
dollars.

The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed
robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria
alone,

homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the
law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not! and criminals
still possess their guns!)

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed
robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12
months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the
elderly.

Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
"successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this on the
Canadian evening news or hear your Member of Parliament disseminating this
information.

The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens
save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the
law-abiding citizens.

Take note Canadians, before it's too late!

FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [ I DID ]

DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.

BE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA.













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[eric.r]

Gun control ... do not get me started! As a retired policeman, I can tell you:
Do not under any circumstances get a concealed weapon permit. Do
not "register" any firearms with anybody! Do purchase from private individuals
whenever possible... When they outlaw the firearms,they utilize all
those "lists" to identify gun owners. If done correctly, only criminals will still
posess firearms ... oh yeah, you'll then be a "criminal" a well protected from
other criminals criminal! Then if you are ever forced to use a firearm, claim
you took it away from your attcker just in the nick of time.
Do On 1/9/2006 11:14 PM, colemangordon@hotmail.com wrote to rebel-
ramble:

->
->
-> ----Original Message Follows----
-> From: "Brian Milner" <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
-> To: <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
-> Subject: FW: The new gun free Australia]
-> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:31:16 -0500
->
-> -------Original Message-------
->
-> <mailto:LathangT@telus.net>
->
-> Subject: Fw: The new gun free Australia]
->
->
->
-> It will be interesting to hear how our Liberal PM justifies his
-> determination to have all guns seized and destroyed in Canada. Does he
also
-> believe that illegal guns will stop crossing the US border into Canada?
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
-> Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts...
->
->
->
-> From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
->
-> Hi friends, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down
-> Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were
forced
-> by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by
our
-> own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
million
-> dollars.
->
-> The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
-> percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed
-> robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria
-> alone,
->
-> homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the
-> law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not! and criminals
-> still possess their guns!)
->
-> While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
armed
-> robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12
-> months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
-> There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the
-> elderly.
->
-> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
-> decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
-> "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this on the
-> Canadian evening news or hear your Member of Parliament disseminating
this
-> information.
->
-> The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens
-> save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the
-> law-abiding citizens.
->
-> Take note Canadians, before it's too late!
->
-> FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [ I DID ]
->
-> DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
->
-> BE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA.
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
-> <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=97165>
->
->
->
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[John M. Goodings]

Perhaps you should not take this article about gun control in Australia at
face value. Pursue it back through the Internet.

J.M.G.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 eric.r@dcsol.com wrote:

Gun control ... do not get me started! As a retired policeman, I can tell you:
Do not under any circumstances get a concealed weapon permit. Do
not "register" any firearms with anybody! Do purchase from private individuals
whenever possible... When they outlaw the firearms,they utilize all
those "lists" to identify gun owners. If done correctly, only criminals will still
posess firearms ... oh yeah, you'll then be a "criminal" a well protected from
other criminals criminal! Then if you are ever forced to use a firearm, claim
you took it away from your attcker just in the nick of time.
Do On 1/9/2006 11:14 PM, colemangordon@hotmail.com wrote to rebel-
ramble:

->
->
-> ----Original Message Follows----
-> From: "Brian Milner" <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
-> To: <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
-> Subject: FW: The new gun free Australia]
-> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:31:16 -0500
->
-> -------Original Message-------
->
-> <mailto:LathangT@telus.net>
->
-> Subject: Fw: The new gun free Australia]
->
->
->
-> It will be interesting to hear how our Liberal PM justifies his
-> determination to have all guns seized and destroyed in Canada. Does he
also
-> believe that illegal guns will stop crossing the US border into Canada?
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
-> Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts...
->
->
->
-> From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
->
-> Hi friends, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down
-> Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were
forced
-> by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by
our
-> own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
million
-> dollars.
->
-> The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
-> percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed
-> robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria
-> alone,
->
-> homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the
-> law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not! and criminals
-> still possess their guns!)
->
-> While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
armed
-> robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12
-> months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
-> There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the
-> elderly.
->
-> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
-> decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
-> "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this on the
-> Canadian evening news or hear your Member of Parliament disseminating
this
-> information.
->
-> The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens
-> save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the
-> law-abiding citizens.
->
-> Take note Canadians, before it's too late!
->
-> FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [ I DID ]
->
-> DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
->
-> BE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA.
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
-> <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=97165>
->
->
->
-> _____
->
->
-> <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?
RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=90682&pa
-> rtner=spamblockerutility> Upgrade Your Email - Click here!
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[Inglis Family]

I certainly agree with that. I can't find any real evidence that the story
is correct.


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
John M. Goodings
Sent: January 22, 2006 10:25 AM
To: rebel-ramble@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: FW: The new gun free Australia]


Perhaps you should not take this article about gun control in Australia at
face value. Pursue it back through the Internet.

J.M.G.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 eric.r@dcsol.com wrote:

Gun control ... do not get me started! As a retired policeman, I can tell

you:

Do not under any circumstances get a concealed weapon permit. Do
not "register" any firearms with anybody! Do purchase from private

individuals

whenever possible... When they outlaw the firearms,they utilize all
those "lists" to identify gun owners. If done correctly, only criminals

will still

posess firearms ... oh yeah, you'll then be a "criminal" a well protected

from

other criminals criminal! Then if you are ever forced to use a firearm,

claim

you took it away from your attcker just in the nick of time.
Do On 1/9/2006 11:14 PM, colemangordon@hotmail.com wrote to rebel-
ramble:

->
->
-> ----Original Message Follows----
-> From: "Brian Milner" <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
-> To: <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
-> Subject: FW: The new gun free Australia]
-> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:31:16 -0500
->
-> -------Original Message-------
->
-> <mailto:LathangT@telus.net>
->
-> Subject: Fw: The new gun free Australia]
->
->
->
-> It will be interesting to hear how our Liberal PM justifies his
-> determination to have all guns seized and destroyed in Canada. Does he
also
-> believe that illegal guns will stop crossing the US border into Canada?
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
-> Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts...
->
->
->
-> From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
->
-> Hi friends, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from

Down

-> Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were
forced
-> by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by
our
-> own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
million
-> dollars.
->
-> The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
-> percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide,

armed

-> robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of

Victoria

-> alone,
->
-> homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the
-> law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not! and

criminals

-> still possess their guns!)
->
-> While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
armed
-> robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past

12

-> months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is

unarmed.

-> There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of

the

-> elderly.
->
-> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
-> decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
-> "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this

on the

-> Canadian evening news or hear your Member of Parliament disseminating
this
-> information.
->
-> The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest

citizens

-> save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the
-> law-abiding citizens.
->
-> Take note Canadians, before it's too late!
->
-> FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [ I DID ]
->
-> DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
->
-> BE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA.
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
-> <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=97165>
->
->
->
-> _____
->
->
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RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=90682&pa
-> rtner=spamblockerutility> Upgrade Your Email - Click here!
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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

That piece has circulated for a couple years! Talk to any of the 4 or 5
Rebel builders in Oz (like I did the first time this came out) and they'll
tell you the numbers are fictitious (like most of the horseshit that
circulates around election time!)

;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Inglis Family" <inglis@scsinternet.com>
To: <rebel-ramble@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: FW: The new gun free Australia]

I certainly agree with that. I can't find any real evidence that the story
is correct.


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
John M. Goodings
Sent: January 22, 2006 10:25 AM
To: rebel-ramble@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: FW: The new gun free Australia]


Perhaps you should not take this article about gun control in Australia at
face value. Pursue it back through the Internet.

J.M.G.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 eric.r@dcsol.com wrote:

Gun control ... do not get me started! As a retired policeman, I can

tell

you:

Do not under any circumstances get a concealed weapon permit. Do
not "register" any firearms with anybody! Do purchase from private

individuals

whenever possible... When they outlaw the firearms,they utilize all
those "lists" to identify gun owners. If done correctly, only criminals

will still

posess firearms ... oh yeah, you'll then be a "criminal" a well

protected

from

other criminals criminal! Then if you are ever forced to use a firearm,

claim

you took it away from your attcker just in the nick of time.
Do On 1/9/2006 11:14 PM, colemangordon@hotmail.com wrote to rebel-
ramble:

->
->
-> ----Original Message Follows----
-> From: "Brian Milner" <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
-> To: <bmilner@chem-ecol.com>
-> Subject: FW: The new gun free Australia]
-> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:31:16 -0500
->
-> -------Original Message-------
->
-> <mailto:LathangT@telus.net>
->
-> Subject: Fw: The new gun free Australia]
->
->
->
-> It will be interesting to hear how our Liberal PM justifies his
-> determination to have all guns seized and destroyed in Canada. Does

he

also
-> believe that illegal guns will stop crossing the US border into

Canada?

->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
-> Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts...
->
->
->
-> From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
->
-> Hi friends, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from

Down

-> Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were
forced
-> by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed

by

our
-> own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
million
-> dollars.
->
-> The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up

3.2

-> percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide,

armed

-> robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of

Victoria

-> alone,
->
-> homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the
-> law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not! and

criminals

-> still possess their guns!)
->
-> While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
armed
-> robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the

past

12

-> months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is

unarmed.

-> There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of

the

-> elderly.
->
-> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
-> decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
-> "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." You won't see this

on the

-> Canadian evening news or hear your Member of Parliament disseminating
this
-> information.
->
-> The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest

citizens

-> save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the
-> law-abiding citizens.
->
-> Take note Canadians, before it's too late!
->
-> FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. [ I DID ]
->
-> DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
->
-> BE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON'T LET THIS HAPPEN IN CANADA.
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
->
-> <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=97165>
->
->
->
-> _____
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RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=90682&pa
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