[rebel-builders] Rebel firewall

Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:56 am

Mine shipped with an aluminum firewall and a sheet of stainless to make an
overlay with so that's what I did. Other than estetics there's no reason
not to save a few bucks and use a thin sheet of galvanized steel for your
overlay.

At 09:34 AM 3/7/2007 -0600, you wrote:

Found another problem with finishing an old kit.
Went to install the firewall this week end and discovered that it is
aluminum.

Checked with Murphy and they confirmed that the old kits were shipped this
way. A new stainless steel firewall is $ 300.00

Anyone out there have a different solution. Possibly a stainless cover? if
so any suggestions as to thickness and type.

Thanks,
Brad (R-195)

Brad Hewlett
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Richard E. Swan · Post by **Richard E. Swan** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:56 am

I too have an older project I'm trying to salvage, and it has the AL
firewall. Can one overlay either stainless steel or galvanized over the AL
within the "inside" flat dimensions of the firewall, or does it need to
conform to the old firewall dimensions around the circumference with
radiused flanges, etc?

thanks.
Richard
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Mine shipped with an aluminum firewall and a sheet of stainless to make an
overlay with so that's what I did. Other than estetics there's no reason
not to save a few bucks and use a thin sheet of galvanized steel for your
overlay.

At 09:34 AM 3/7/2007 -0600, you wrote:
Found another problem with finishing an old kit.
Went to install the firewall this week end and discovered that it is
aluminum.

Checked with Murphy and they confirmed that the old kits were shipped this
way. A new stainless steel firewall is $ 300.00

Anyone out there have a different solution. Possibly a stainless cover? if
so any suggestions as to thickness and type.

Thanks,
Brad (R-195)

Brad Hewlett
Saskatoon, SK
bhewlett@sasktel.net

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Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:56 am

mines just flat. I cut to fit just inside the flanges.

At 07:25 PM 3/7/2007 -0600, you wrote:

I too have an older project I'm trying to salvage, and it has the AL
firewall. Can one overlay either stainless steel or galvanized over the AL
within the "inside" flat dimensions of the firewall, or does it need to
conform to the old firewall dimensions around the circumference with
radiused flanges, etc?

thanks.
Richard
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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall

Mine shipped with an aluminum firewall and a sheet of stainless to make an
overlay with so that's what I did. Other than estetics there's no reason
not to save a few bucks and use a thin sheet of galvanized steel for your
overlay.

At 09:34 AM 3/7/2007 -0600, you wrote:
Found another problem with finishing an old kit.
Went to install the firewall this week end and discovered that it is
aluminum.

Checked with Murphy and they confirmed that the old kits were shipped this
way. A new stainless steel firewall is $ 300.00

Anyone out there have a different solution. Possibly a stainless cover? if
so any suggestions as to thickness and type.

Thanks,
Brad (R-195)

Brad Hewlett
Saskatoon, SK
bhewlett@sasktel.net

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Richard E. Swan · Post by **Richard E. Swan** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:56 am

Drew:

thanks for the reply; next question: if I just overlay, what thickness is
recommended? Logic would say that it wouldn't have to be very thick because
it is being added to aluminum already in place, and the aluminum in place
is/was good enough in many versions.

thanks; again!
Richard

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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall

mines just flat. I cut to fit just inside the flanges.

At 07:25 PM 3/7/2007 -0600, you wrote:
I too have an older project I'm trying to salvage, and it has the AL
firewall. Can one overlay either stainless steel or galvanized over the
AL
within the "inside" flat dimensions of the firewall, or does it need to
conform to the old firewall dimensions around the circumference with
radiused flanges, etc?

thanks.
Richard
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall

Mine shipped with an aluminum firewall and a sheet of stainless to make
an
overlay with so that's what I did. Other than estetics there's no reason
not to save a few bucks and use a thin sheet of galvanized steel for
your
overlay.

At 09:34 AM 3/7/2007 -0600, you wrote: Drew

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Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:56 am

Thin!
I believe I've seen .018" steel as minimum mentioned in the Canadian
rules somewhere but after you caulk the edges with fire resistant sealer
no one but you will ever know even if they bothered to wonder which is
very unlikely... I believe I used one size thicker than that simply
because it was easier to obtain locally.
Ken

Richard E. Swan wrote:

Drew:

thanks for the reply; next question: if I just overlay, what thickness is
recommended? Logic would say that it wouldn't have to be very thick because
it is being added to aluminum already in place, and the aluminum in place
is/was good enough in many versions.

thanks; again!
Richard

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Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:56 am

I think mines about .020 but if you can find thinner go for it.

At 10:21 PM 3/8/2007 -0600, you wrote:

Drew:

thanks for the reply; next question: if I just overlay, what thickness is
recommended? Logic would say that it wouldn't have to be very thick because
it is being added to aluminum already in place, and the aluminum in place
is/was good enough in many versions.

thanks; again!
Richard

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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall

mines just flat. I cut to fit just inside the flanges.

At 07:25 PM 3/7/2007 -0600, you wrote:
I too have an older project I'm trying to salvage, and it has the AL
firewall. Can one overlay either stainless steel or galvanized over the
AL
within the "inside" flat dimensions of the firewall, or does it need to
conform to the old firewall dimensions around the circumference with
radiused flanges, etc?

thanks.
Richard
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Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

Hi Doug !

It's either a thin sheet of stainless, or galvanized ...

If you have an early kit, it might be aluminum, so needs
a stainless overlay - or FiberFrax ! ;-)

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Is the firewall that comes with the kit stainless steel ? ThanksDoug778R

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John R. Davidson · Post by **John R. Davidson** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

In terms of serial number, how would you define "early"?

Thanks

John

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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:34:34 -0500

Hi Doug !

It's either a thin sheet of stainless, or galvanized ...

If you have an early kit, it might be aluminum, so needs
a stainless overlay - or FiberFrax ! ;-)

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Is the firewall that comes with the kit stainless steel ? ThanksDoug778R

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

Doug's should be stainless and formed at Serial 778.

I got a formed stainless in 1994 to upgrade my #243.. some in those years /
early serial #'s only got a sheet of stainless to rivet overtop of the
aluminum one that was originally supplied.

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In terms of serial number, how would you define "early"?

Thanks

John

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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:34:34 -0500

Hi Doug !

It's either a thin sheet of stainless, or galvanized ...

If you have an early kit, it might be aluminum, so needs
a stainless overlay - or FiberFrax ! ;-)

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On Thursday 15 December 2011 08:38:22 Doug Farrow wrote:
Is the firewall that comes with the kit stainless steel ?
ThanksDoug778R

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Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

Not sure, John ! I think, below #100 ..... although
I think some later ones have been reported...

Not necessarily a bad thing - aluminum + stainless
could be a bit stronger ... Aluminum + FiberFrax could be
a bit lighter and easier to work ....

Easy to test - just try to scratch or drill it ! ;-)

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On Thursday 15 December 2011 11:57:33 John R. Davidson wrote:

In terms of serial number, how would you define "early"?

Thanks

John

From: bobp@prosumers.ca
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:34:34 -0500

Hi Doug !

It's either a thin sheet of stainless, or galvanized ...

If you have an early kit, it might be aluminum, so needs

a stainless overlay - or FiberFrax ! ;-)

......bobp

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On Thursday 15 December 2011 08:38:22 Doug Farrow wrote:
Is the firewall that comes with the kit stainless steel ?
ThanksDoug778R

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

They were shipped with aluminum up until #243 for sure... and then the
fight began! lol

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Not sure, John ! I think, below #100 ..... although
I think some later ones have been reported...

Not necessarily a bad thing - aluminum + stainless
could be a bit stronger ... Aluminum + FiberFrax could be
a bit lighter and easier to work ....

Easy to test - just try to scratch or drill it ! ;-)

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On Thursday 15 December 2011 11:57:33 John R. Davidson wrote:
In terms of serial number, how would you define "early"?

Thanks

John

From: bobp@prosumers.ca
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:34:34 -0500

Hi Doug !

It's either a thin sheet of stainless, or galvanized ...

If you have an early kit, it might be aluminum, so needs

a stainless overlay - or FiberFrax ! ;-)

......bobp

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Curt Langholz · Post by **Curt Langholz** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

Mine has aluminum 175R.

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Not sure, John ! I think, below #100 ..... although
I think some later ones have been reported...

Not necessarily a bad thing - aluminum + stainless
could be a bit stronger ... Aluminum + FiberFrax could be
a bit lighter and easier to work ....

Easy to test - just try to scratch or drill it ! ;-)

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andrew Byers · Post by **andrew Byers** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

Mine is stainless

Andrew 779R

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Is the firewall that comes with the kit stainless steel ? ThanksDoug778R

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craig · Post by **craig** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

My kit, #207 came with a sheet of SS which had to be cut to size. Craig

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Doug's should be stainless and formed at Serial 778.

I got a formed stainless in 1994 to upgrade my #243.. some in those years /
early serial #'s only got a sheet of stainless to rivet overtop of the
aluminum one that was originally supplied.

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Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall

In terms of serial number, how would you define "early"?

Thanks

John

From: bobp@prosumers.ca
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:34:34 -0500

Hi Doug !

It's either a thin sheet of stainless, or galvanized ...

If you have an early kit, it might be aluminum, so needs
a stainless overlay - or FiberFrax ! ;-)

......bobp
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ThanksDoug778R

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ray · Post by **ray** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

My good friend has an elite and I,m sure his firewall is aluminum as is my
rebel. I should have got to 4 before now but haven,t. I've read tony
bingalis and others and 'know' that its steel or stainless on a firewall for
protection. Now it looks like a cookie cutter operation coming to the
arlington hanger this winter. I have looked at my firewall 100 times and
seen bare aluminum and just tonight the lights came on. Sure glad this plane
is so good as an airplane to make up for some of these shortcomings that pop
up.The 4 is a 2 plus 2 operation in case I wasn,t clear. How stupid does
intumesent paint sound? My firewall is loaded and it one of those hard to
get to places on the plane that is all work and small reward. I,m whining
now so I have to go. Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig" <snowyriver@ak.net>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:21 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall

My kit, #207 came with a sheet of SS which had to be cut to size. Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:26 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall

Doug's should be stainless and formed at Serial 778.

I got a formed stainless in 1994 to upgrade my #243.. some in those years
/
early serial #'s only got a sheet of stainless to rivet overtop of the
aluminum one that was originally supplied.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John R. Davidson" <skidaddy20000@hotmail.com>
To: "Rebel List" <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall

In terms of serial number, how would you define "early"?

Thanks

John

From: bobp@prosumers.ca
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Firewall
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:34:34 -0500

Hi Doug !

It's either a thin sheet of stainless, or galvanized ...

If you have an early kit, it might be aluminum, so needs
a stainless overlay - or FiberFrax ! ;-)

......bobp
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