[rebel-builders] Windshield

[mbetti]

Thanks Wayne......

On Tue, 30 May 2006 23:16:27 -0400, rebel-builders@dcsol.com said:

Yes Mike of course. It's how you keep the water out!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Betti" <mbetti@up.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

Wayne,
Thousand questions............
Do you put the Butyl between the glass and the airframe?
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

Yes..of course Joel.

I also find with the top one to be sure to run a strip of the buytlene
(sp)
tape across where the bolt holes are before putting the strip down. Then
when you push the bolts thru they will seal in the holes. Messy to put

the

washers/nuts on...but at least the washer will stay in place while you
start
the nuts!


----- Original Message -----
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To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

angle

it's

tight open inside

bulkhead

in

windshield edge

for

a the

covers/you

rivets,

I heck



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[Joel Jacobs]

Okay. Thanks Wayne.
I've been looking around for the Butyl tape and I see it comes in various
shapes/diameters. I've seen 1/4" and 3/8" round beads (on Ebay) and then
came across this:
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/caul ... /48463.htm
I think this is the right stuff if anyone is looking for it..
Joel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

Yes..of course Joel.

I also find with the top one to be sure to run a strip of the buytlene
(sp)
tape across where the bolt holes are before putting the strip down. Then
when you push the bolts thru they will seal in the holes. Messy to put the
washers/nuts on...but at least the washer will stay in place while you
start
the nuts!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Jacobs" <jj@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

This came through at a great time Wayne. I'm getting ready to start my
windshield very soon. Thanks much for reposting. I had not seen this
either. Do you also put the foam weatherstripping on the top piece?
Thanks again..
Joel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

I'm pretty sure this has been laid out many times...but here goes
again.

There retainer strip works best with the wide brake edge used as the
bolting
side and the narrow braked edge as the windshield side.

When drilling the side strips you drill into the strip (5 per side is
plenty - top strip about every 3 to 4 inches) and every so slightly

angle

the holes towards the nose as you are going thru the Fus-9 (assume it's
this
number on the Elite as well - The triangle between the door post and
windshield). Doing this (angled holes) will help pull the strip down

tight

against the windshield without making the AN526 head sitting cocked
against
the strip. On final assembly take some 1/4" to 3/8" wide x 3/16 thick

open

cell weather stripping or what ever you can get and stick it to the

inside

face of the retainer strips along the small brake edge section. That
way
when the strip is tightened down the foam will compress and hold the
windshield prior to the strips edge making contact with the Acrylic.

The top strip generally gets bolted right thru the cabin roof bulkhead
flange or just behind it. Works well that the windshield stops right in
front of the rivet row on the roof. The retainer will hold the

windshield

and is just large enough that the holes end up just behind or on the
flange.
If on you have to space them between existing rivets and the trailing

edge

of the retainer will sit down on the roof just behind the rivet row for

a

clean transition.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

the

enough

I

see

heck

out



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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

The tape I use comes in about 30 foot rolls and is about 3/32 to 1/8 think x
1" wide. I use it full width on the bottom retainer...keeping it about 3/16
back from the edge (as it will grow in the sun) and I cut it in half to make
1/2" wide strips for the sides and top of the window. Rolling it up in a
roll works well for sealing the gap around the front wing attach area where
the window sits out off the fuselage.

Source for the tape....I just walk into Huronia Auto Glass her i Midland,
that does car windshields and boat windows, hand Norm $10 and he gives me a
couple rolls!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Jacobs" <jj@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

Okay. Thanks Wayne.
I've been looking around for the Butyl tape and I see it comes in various
shapes/diameters. I've seen 1/4" and 3/8" round beads (on Ebay) and then
came across this:
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/caul ... /48463.htm
I think this is the right stuff if anyone is looking for it..
Joel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

Yes..of course Joel.

I also find with the top one to be sure to run a strip of the buytlene
(sp)
tape across where the bolt holes are before putting the strip down. Then
when you push the bolts thru they will seal in the holes. Messy to put

the

washers/nuts on...but at least the washer will stay in place while you
start
the nuts!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Jacobs" <jj@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

This came through at a great time Wayne. I'm getting ready to start my
windshield very soon. Thanks much for reposting. I had not seen this
either. Do you also put the foam weatherstripping on the top piece?
Thanks again..
Joel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

angle

it's

tight

open

inside

bulkhead

in

windshield

edge

for

a

the

covers/you

rivets,

I

heck

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[Ken]

Aircraft Spruce sells it as "strip caulk"
Ken

Joel Jacobs wrote:

Okay. Thanks Wayne.
I've been looking around for the Butyl tape and I see it comes in various
shapes/diameters. I've seen 1/4" and 3/8" round beads (on Ebay) and then
came across this:
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/caul ... /48463.htm
I think this is the right stuff if anyone is looking for it..
Joel

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[Bob Patterson]

Sorry Craig ...

Email to: Shipping@murphyair.com

No parts orders here .... yet. Maybe sooooon ....

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On Thursday 24 September 2009 18:27, snowyrvr@mtaonline.net wrote:

Hey Bob,

Do I order a windshield through you or MAM. I sure hope you say you. :)
Craig W

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From: Bob Patterson bobp@prosumers.ca
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:42:30 +0000
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Flapperon/Aileron settings



Thanks Craig !

The important measurements are - the center of the middle hole
to the center of each of the outer holes.... especially the forward
one. Does anyone have those to post ??? Charlie ???

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[Jeff Micheal]

Hey Craig,

I could put your order in direct........... but that would be like budding
in line. LOL.

Cheers,
Jeff


On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Bob Patterson <bobp@prosumers.ca> wrote:

Sorry Craig ...

Email to: Shipping@murphyair.com

No parts orders here .... yet. Maybe sooooon ....

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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 24 September 2009 18:27, snowyrvr@mtaonline.net wrote:

Hey Bob,

Do I order a windshield through you or MAM. I sure hope you say you. :)
Craig W

Original Message:
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From: Bob Patterson bobp@prosumers.ca
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:42:30 +0000
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel Flapperon/Aileron settings



Thanks Craig !

The important measurements are - the center of the middle hole
to the center of each of the outer holes.... especially the forward
one. Does anyone have those to post ??? Charlie ???

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[Keith Oliver]

So who is ordering the windshield from AeroLP you or MAM ?

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craig
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:05 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Windshield


I received and email from MAM yesterday with instructions to contact AeroLP.
I did that today and am the proud owner-to-be of a new windshield. The
$315 freight quote reminds me of the very few reasons not to live in Alaska.
Nice to have that one checked off! Now, back to those damn fairing boxes!
CW



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[craig]

I had to call and I guess they already had a PO from MAM. Nice folks,
though, at Aero.




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[Keith Oliver]

Would you mind telling me what the cost of the windshield was ?


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I had to call and I guess they already had a PO from MAM. Nice folks,
though, at Aero.




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[jbcressman]

Keith....Was told to expect $600 by the time all costs were rolled in (exchange, shipping, taxes etc.) Bob 331R


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Would you mind telling me what the cost of the windshield was ?


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[Keith Oliver]

Sorry I meant the windshield alone

I don't mean to be a pain but am possibly going to be neat the factory and
thought I might get a spare
would save on the shipping

Thanks

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Keith....Was told to expect $600 by the time all costs were rolled in
(exchange, shipping, taxes etc.) Bob 331R


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Would you mind telling me what the cost of the windshield was ?


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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Windshields are being drop shipped directly to customers. They won't see the
factory... to the best of my knowledge.


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Sorry I meant the windshield alone

I don't mean to be a pain but am possibly going to be neat the factory and
thought I might get a spare
would save on the shipping

Thanks

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Keith....Was told to expect $600 by the time all costs were rolled in
(exchange, shipping, taxes etc.) Bob 331R


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Would you mind telling me what the cost of the windshield was ?


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[Jeff Micheal]

From what I remember with LP Aero is that they will drop ship within the
USA, but when it came to shipping across the US/Canada Border they wouldn't
ship unless you had someone to clear customs (broker) prior to the shipment
leaving LP. Just what I recall from dealing with them in the past. The
alternative is to have it drop shipped to a border crossing near your
location, pick up the item in the US and clear customs yourself.

Cheers,
Jeff


On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:

Windshields are being drop shipped directly to customers. They won't see
the
factory... to the best of my knowledge.


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Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshield

Sorry I meant the windshield alone

I don't mean to be a pain but am possibly going to be neat the factory

and

thought I might get a spare
would save on the shipping

Thanks

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Keith....Was told to expect $600 by the time all costs were rolled in
(exchange, shipping, taxes etc.) Bob 331R


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Would you mind telling me what the cost of the windshield was ?


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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

That damn imaginary line eh....
;O)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Micheal" <westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield

From what I remember with LP Aero is that they will drop ship within the
USA, but when it came to shipping across the US/Canada Border they
wouldn't
ship unless you had someone to clear customs (broker) prior to the
shipment
leaving LP. Just what I recall from dealing with them in the past. The
alternative is to have it drop shipped to a border crossing near your
location, pick up the item in the US and clear customs yourself.

Cheers,
Jeff


On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Wayne G. O'Shea
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:

Windshields are being drop shipped directly to customers. They won't see
the
factory... to the best of my knowledge.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Oliver" <kboliver47@roadrunner.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshield

Sorry I meant the windshield alone

I don't mean to be a pain but am possibly going to be neat the factory

and

thought I might get a spare
would save on the shipping

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
jbcressman@aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:25 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield


Keith....Was told to expect $600 by the time all costs were rolled in
(exchange, shipping, taxes etc.) Bob 331R


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Oliver <kboliver47@roadrunner.com>
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 11:50 am
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Windshield








Would you mind telling me what the cost of the windshield was ?


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
craig
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 1:33 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Windshield


I had to call and I guess they already had a PO from MAM. Nice folks,
though, at Aero.




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[craig]

$542



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