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LisaFly99

Rebel windshield

Post by LisaFly99 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:13 pm

In a message dated 6/3/02 9:04:07 PM Central Daylight Time, oifa@irishfield.on.ca writes:

As for the rubber strip I have never put one on a windshield yet,
I put the rubber Channel on the edge of the front wing fairing. So it's not a metal edge against the windshield.
Phil&Lisa Smith

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Wayne G. O'Shea

Rebel windshield

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:13 pm

Phil, I was refering to the actual windshield itself. I have never slipped the u-channel rubber over the windshields lower edge. I ALWAYS use rubber edging on the fairing piece that wraps around from top to bottom of the wing that sits against the windshield at the front attach area.

Thanks for pointing that out so, we can clear the mud out of the water for Terry!

Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: LisaFly99@aol.com (LisaFly99@aol.com)
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com (murphy-rebel@dcsol.com)
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Rebel windshield


In a message dated 6/3/02 9:04:07 PM Central Daylight Time, oifa@irishfield.on.ca (oifa@irishfield.on.ca) writes:

As for the rubber strip I have never put one on a windshield yet,
I put the rubber Channel on the edge of the front wing fairing. So it's not a metal edge against the windshield.
Phil&Lisa Smith

rognal

Rebel Windshield

Post by rognal » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:09 am

Several days ago I masked off the windshield, layed up 5 plies of fiberglass
for the bottom retainer, let everything cure, then spent most of today trying
to pry it off without breaking something.

Now that the retainer is off, does anyone have any hints on how to get the
masking tape separated from the fiberglass? I've pulled off as much as I can
but what is left is really stuck on. I don't want to use anything that would
soften the fiberglass or cause the glass ply to separate. But I would like to
get the remaining sticky masking tape residue off.

Thanks for any help,

Roger Hoffman #687R
Eugene, OR USA!


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wrayt

Rebel Windshield

Post by wrayt » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:09 am

You could try "goo gon" sp? but personally I'd just sand it off.

ROGNAL wrote:
Several days ago I masked off the windshield, layed up 5 plies of fiberglass
for the bottom retainer, let everything cure, then spent most of today trying
to pry it off without breaking something.

Now that the retainer is off, does anyone have any hints on how to get the
masking tape separated from the fiberglass? I've pulled off as much as I can
but what is left is really stuck on. I don't want to use anything that would
soften the fiberglass or cause the glass ply to separate. But I would like to
get the remaining sticky masking tape residue off.

Thanks for any help,

Roger Hoffman #687R
Eugene, OR USA!
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Wray Thompson ...Rebel 306 ...home page http://wrayt.tripod.com/
My ICQ number is 29764664


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Terry Dazey

Rebel Windshield

Post by Terry Dazey » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:09 am

Now that the retainer is off, does anyone have any hints on how to get the
masking tape separated from the fiberglass? I've pulled off as much as I can
but what is left is really stuck on. I don't want to use anything that would
soften the fiberglass
Hello Roger:

My EZ canopy had gray duct tape on it for more than 2 years. When I pealed the
gray tape off, it left very little tape residue on the canopy and the cured
fiberglass canopy rails, so my cleaning was minimal. I guess I lucked out.
There was a small amount of tape residue in the weave of the cured Saf-T-Poxy
(Epolite) fiberglass. If I recall (Yeow!, That was 18 years ago), I wiped the
local area very quickly with Acetone and picked at it with my Exacto knife. The
goo that I couldn't get, went away with final sanding before filler. I am not
sure what type of epoxy you are using, but be careful when using chemicals here.
A couple of my EZ builder pals ended up with a residue mess on their canopies. I
have heard them use "Goof-Off", "Goo-Gone" kerosene and even WD-40 being used
but I am not sure of the effects it will have on your cured fiberglass. Take a
scrap piece of same material and TRY IT FIRST!

You mentioned in your original post that you used masking tape for a "release".
I typically use gray duct tape in applications similar to what you are doing on
your Rebel windshield frame. I have also used Syran Wrap carefully placed and
taped with no wrinkles on the area where a layup (and removal of the layup) is
to be accomplished. On perfectly flat layups where you need a cured flat panel,
I use store bought release agent or Syran Wrap taped down on each corner with no
wrinkles (DO NOT use wax paper as the wax may contaminate the epoxy on the
mating surface if you intend to attach the cured piece to another piece later).
Whatever you do . . . DO NOT use masking tape for a release! Instructions on
some masking tape even say NOT to leave on longer than 48 hours or you will be
scraping it off. In my opinion, the chemicals from epoxy have an effect on the
masking tape stickum also. Masking tape will not work well! IMHO.

When accomplishing a multiple ply layup, I will use brown paper (an unfolded
paper bag or equivalent) and mark "cut here" lines on it with black felt pen.
Wet out the brown paper on the workbench and layup all of the plys a bit
oversized onto the paper. Once you are satisfied that all of the plys are
sufficiently stippled and squeeged (no air bubbles or white cloth fibers), cut
the paper and cloth layups with your good industrial Weiss scissors on the "cut
here" lines you previously made (you should be able to see the "cut here" lines
through your layup). You will then be able to carry the whole mess over to your
plane. Lay the cloth down onto the area with the brown paper on the outside and
s-l-o-w-l-y and very carefully use your 1/2 wide cheep-o paintbrush to
pick-and-peel the paper off. Once the paper is removed, carefully finish
stippling the layups into place. Now that all of that is accomplished, clean up
your tools, remove your latex gloves, go wash your hands and pat yourself on the
back for a job well done.

Use a mixing container that has NO wax in it. (Some "Dixie" type cups have a
layer of wax on the inside). The epoxy could become contaminated with the wax
from the cup from the stirring process.

For a stir stick, take a toung depressor and cut one end off flat. This will
allow you to get into the mixing cup bottom for complete mixing of the two-part
epoxy.

A hair dryer used very sparingly can help wet out the cloth on cool days. Just
warm the area that you are wetting out NOT hot!

Was this a long answer to a short question? Sorry . . .

These are just MY opinions and thoughts.

Have fun and good luck.

Terry Dazey
Rebel 662
Sumner, Washington U.S.A.




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Robert Johnson

Rebel Windshield

Post by Robert Johnson » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:09 am

Roger, I went through a similar thing and used varsol to remove the tape
glue. It did not effect the fiberglass resin.-Bob J Rebel 652
Thanks for any help,
Roger Hoffman #687R
Eugene, OR USA!



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Gregory Gordon

Rebel Windshield

Post by Gregory Gordon » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:09 am

Hello Roger,
The best chemical to use to dissolve the glue used on masking tape(or any
other sticky type tape or even chewing gum) is either eucalyptus oil or
D-limonene (orange citrus oil).

Kind regards,
Greg. gordon. Elite 724(still building)


Hello Roger,
The best solvent to use to remove the sticky masking tape is either
eucalyptus oil, tea tree oil or D limoene(orange citrus oil). These oils
will not effect the fiberglass or your windshield as well they are non toxic
unless ingested.


Kind regards,
Greg. Gordon. Elite 724(still building)



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Curt Langholz

Rebel windshield

Post by Curt Langholz » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:36 pm

Is there any place besides MAM to get a windshield? I have emailed Daryl to order one, no reply so far this week. I am sure he is busy but it would be nice to still have decent service for builders.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Shannon
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 6:36 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Seat Rails and Seat Stops

Aha, that does help! :-)

Unless you're very short, I wouldn't worry about being able to use that
front end hole on the rail. FWIW, I'm 5 ft. 10 in. tall and would never
need to be that far forward. Stick with the 3/4" wide stop and "don't
worry, be happy!" :-)

Ron


On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Thomas Breitbach <rebel@tbreitbach.de>wrote:
Ron,

this is hard to understand without a picture. I uploaded one showing my
problem under

http://www.tbreitbach.de/SeatRail.jpg

This probably best explains my question. The fabricated seat stop in
this picture is 3/4 " (as denoted by the manual).

Thomas
433R


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