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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] EP420

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

It's all gobbidy goo to me... all I know is the stuff, EP420, works great
!!!

"Amines and amine derivatives are the most diverse group of epoxy curing
agents. The fully polymerized epoxy resins exhibit a very wide range of
thermal and mechanical properties. Though other classes of compounds (e.g.,
anhydrides, phenolic resins and Lewis acids) are used as hardeners for some
applications, the breadth of performance imparted by amine hardeners is
unmatched. This paper provides an overview of the wide variety of amine
hardeners, including several recent developments that can expand the
capabilities of epoxy formulators into new applications.



History

Amine compounds were among the earliest reactants used with epoxy resins to
produce useful products. As epoxy resins became more widely available
following their development and commercialization in the late 1940s and
mid-1950s, utilization of an ever-wider variety of amine compounds ensued.
Because most amines are reactive at room temperature with epoxy resins, such
formulations are typically provided as two separate parts (or "sides"),
which are mixed just prior to application.
Though a variety of epoxy resin products are commercially available, liquid
resins based on the diglycidyl ether of bisphenol A (also termed DGEBA or
BADGE type resins) have the widest use and availability due to their
relatively low price, which is partially gained from economies of scale.
Because of this, the epoxy portion of epoxy formulations often remains
relatively fixed, and most variations in processing and performance are
obtained by making changes to the hardener side of the formulation. The wide
variety of commercially available amine compounds and decades of study and
formulation have helped to make this group of hardeners the most versatile
and widely used of any epoxy reactants."


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <ted@vafm.org>
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Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 9:33 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] EP420

I looked up EP420 on Aircraft Spruce. It says it is "anime cured" in the
description. I spent 5 trying to find out what that means. Anyone know?

Thank you!

Ted



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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] EP420

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

BTW.. if you order some, be sure you buy a kit... or order the EP430
Catalyst seperately. 2 to 1 mix.. so Quart of EP420 and pint of EP430. I
ordered some from ACS thinking I had ordered a "kit" last week and felt like
an ass when I called them up saying they shorted me the can of EP430.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] EP420

It's all gobbidy goo to me... all I know is the stuff, EP420, works great
!!!

"Amines and amine derivatives are the most diverse group of epoxy curing
agents. The fully polymerized epoxy resins exhibit a very wide range of
thermal and mechanical properties. Though other classes of compounds
(e.g.,
anhydrides, phenolic resins and Lewis acids) are used as hardeners for
some
applications, the breadth of performance imparted by amine hardeners is
unmatched. This paper provides an overview of the wide variety of amine
hardeners, including several recent developments that can expand the
capabilities of epoxy formulators into new applications.



History

Amine compounds were among the earliest reactants used with epoxy resins
to
produce useful products. As epoxy resins became more widely available
following their development and commercialization in the late 1940s and
mid-1950s, utilization of an ever-wider variety of amine compounds ensued.
Because most amines are reactive at room temperature with epoxy resins,
such
formulations are typically provided as two separate parts (or "sides"),
which are mixed just prior to application.
Though a variety of epoxy resin products are commercially available,
liquid
resins based on the diglycidyl ether of bisphenol A (also termed DGEBA or
BADGE type resins) have the widest use and availability due to their
relatively low price, which is partially gained from economies of scale.
Because of this, the epoxy portion of epoxy formulations often remains
relatively fixed, and most variations in processing and performance are
obtained by making changes to the hardener side of the formulation. The
wide
variety of commercially available amine compounds and decades of study and
formulation have helped to make this group of hardeners the most versatile
and widely used of any epoxy reactants."


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Waltman" <ted@vafm.org>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 9:33 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] EP420

I looked up EP420 on Aircraft Spruce. It says it is "anime cured" in the
description. I spent 5 trying to find out what that means. Anyone know?

Thank you!

Ted



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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] EP420

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:35 pm

Hi Ted !

It's likely a miss-spelling of AMINE - a polyamine chemical
reaction ... instead of a polyester chemical reaction ...
Think amines are a bit harder ...

Just one kind of catalyst-inspired change in structure &
properties .... but IANAC ... (I Am Not A Chemist !!) ;-)


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On Thursday 24 November 2011 21:33:51 Ted Waltman wrote:
I looked up EP420 on Aircraft Spruce. It says it is "anime cured" in the
description. I spent 5 trying to find out what that means. Anyone know?

Thank you!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 5:24 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Polygone - Proseal Polysulfide eater! Product
Review

Well Ken... it didn't emulsify it like it did to the Proseal but you can
see in the second picture, if you look close, it ever so slightly wrinkled
the sealant. After letting it sit for about 3 hours (aggitating every 30
minutes) it was then fairly easy to scrape away with a plastic scraper. I
think this and a wipe with Acetone will clean it up pretty good and with
much less fumes than just using an acetone soaked rag. Acetone easily
disolves Sikaflex I find, but takes a lot of it to do so.

This Sikaflex was 14 years old and on well prepped material. I orginally
built the floats that this bulkhead was from in 1997.

http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/pgsikaflex1.jpg

http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/pgsikaflex2.jpg

http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/pgsikalfex3.jpg

http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/pgsikaflex4.jpg

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